The route doesn't really save much time if going CHI-MIA, up until Savannah GA it arrives 81ish minutes before the Silver Star originally did. After that it decreases to a whole 26 minutes early in MIA. I haven't looked into returnTrain 41 means Chicago to Miami, and vice versa, the opposite of what the Three River was.
Dwell time in DC is 59 minutes to Chicago; 38 minutes to Miami. This is going to be a disaster for both halves of the route.
Imagine the Pennsylvanian refugees in Pittsburgh waiting up for this thing.
Track conditions do not follow the name, so no concern there. Unless the name is somehow cursed, I imagine it'll do about as well as the Cap and Star have done. Amtrak is not leaving the CHI-WAS or WAS-TPA-MIA markets, which remain the targets of the train. As many have mentioned, it is a primarily an equipment utilization move, not really a move for the Chicago-Florida market.Amtrak had a train with this name in the 1970's and it was a total dud due to track conditions in Indiana. Can't believe they couldn't come up with something else. Also, I predict this new one won't last long, but who knows.
Probably in different buckets for the for the different city pairs.Apparently less expensive. I noticed that cost/mile decreases
Probably will switch to NER and Floridian for the NYP-CHI segment of my November 2025 trip. Would have liked to ride the Cap again but have been avoiding it since COVID since it had no Sightseer and Flex meals. Getting traditional back makes the route much more appealing.And looks like Traditional dining the entire way?
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Might they rebook sleeper passengers on Acela 1st class or the Lake Shore Ltd altogether ?Probably will switch to NER and Floridian for the NYP-CHI segment of my November 2025 trip. Would have liked to ride the Cap again but have been avoiding it since COVID since it had no Sightseer and Flex meals. Getting traditional back makes the route much more appealing.
The closest 40/41 will come to New York is Washington, DC. That Superliners do not clear the Baltimore tunnels, the North River and East River tubes is immaterial to 40 and 41.With this happening, I'm assuing that the route will have amfleets or horizons as the NY tunnels will not be able to accommodate the CL's superliners?
The closest 40/41 will come to New York is Washington, DC. That Superliners do not clear the Baltimore tunnels, the North River and East River tubes is immaterial to 40 and 41.
AFAIK, 40/41's entire route could clear Superliners. But one of the main reasons for the change is to free up Superliners, so it'll be an Amfleet II/Viewliner consist.
Train 41 means Chicago to Miami, and vice versa, the opposite of what the Three River was.
Dwell time in DC is 59 minutes to Chicago; 38 minutes to Miami. This is going to be a disaster for both halves of the route.
Imagine the Pennsylvanian refugees in Pittsburgh waiting up for this thing.
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