Southwest Chief derailment (June 2022)

[jebr]

Multiple air ambulances en route.

 

[Rover]

Watching "Live" on CNN as a Passenger talks with the CNN Reporter via Phone.

It doesn't sound or look good, report of Injuries but No deaths so far!

One of the Conductors and somd Passengers are standing on the side of the overturned Cars.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/us/missouri-amtrak-train-derailment/index.html

 

[JWM]

That 90 mph limit on those tracks dates back decades from the ATSF. We will keep having these incidents so long as vehicles ignore trains or warnings. I pray for the injured.

 

[Kirk2266]

So, was the dump truck parked on the tracks, or did it try to beat the train across the tracks?

 

[AmtrakBlue]

So, was the dump truck parked on the tracks, or did it try to beat the train across the tracks?

It hit the truck - at 90 mph

 

[Steve4031]

The crossing does not appear to have gates. I’m assuming this was the route 122 crossing where the derailment occurred.

 

[jebr]

Live helicopter feed from KMBC in Kansas City

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=744498290224613

 

[Rover]

Live copter coverage from KMBC 9 out of Kansas City, Mo

https://www.kmbc.com/article/passenger-train-derails-missouri-monday-afternoon/40435950

 

[basketmaker]

The whole consist is on it's side.

 

[TinCan782]

So, was the dump truck parked on the tracks, or did it try to beat the train across the tracks?

We'll find out later as the investigation continues.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Look at the comments. He posted a short video of the inside of one of the coach cars.

 

[jkevkillian]

KMBC-TV helicopter has been circling the scene and reporting for a couple of hours now. At the time I'm posting this, it's still live. The entire train, except for the lead engine, tipped over.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/passenger-train-derails-missouri-monday-afternoon/40435950

 

[jebr]

Confirmed that there are fatalities, no number given yet.

 

[alpha3]

Once again.........something tries to beat or evade an approaching train, with disastrous consequences. But, I'm sure this is the train's fault....

 

[Cal]

The whole consist is on it's side.

Engines aren't, all passengers cars and baggage car is.

Confirmed that there are fatalities, no number given yet.

I wonder how this might effect my scheduled Chief trip in a few weeks.

 

[Chris I]

Have there been any studies out there about propensity for flipping with single-level vs. bi-level cars? This seems to happen a lot with the bi-level Amtrak cars. It just seems to me that these trains should not be tipping over when derailing on a completely straight section of track.

 

[joelkfla]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/us/missouri-amtrak-train-derailment/index.html

"Amtrak said people who need immediate assistance with information about the train can call or text 1-800-USA-RAIL."

Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[SarahZ]

But, I'm sure this is the train's fault....

Literally no one has said that.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Have there been any studies out there about propensity for flipping with single-level vs. bi-level cars? This seems to happen a lot with the bi-level Amtrak cars. It just seems to me that these trains should not be tipping over when derailing on a completely straight section of track.

Purely a guess on my part, but I wonder if large piece of the truck started the dominos effect.

 

[BalmyZephyr]

Once again.........something tries to beat or evade an approaching train, with disastrous consequences. But, I'm sure this is the train's fault....

The term "derailment" out of context makes people think that trains just randomly derail. Something like this should be called what it is. Rail passengers were victims of Negligent (or Intentional) Homicide by Motor Vehicle?

 

[jebr]

"Amtrak said people who need immediate assistance with information about the train can call or text 1-800-USA-RAIL."

Amtrak's own statement gives a different number - 1-800-523-9101. Not sure why CNN is giving the USA-RAIL number when that wasn't even mentioned in the press release.

 

[BalmyZephyr]

Literally no one has said that.

The term "derailment" says that.

 

[crescent-zephyr]

Have there been any studies out there about propensity for flipping with single-level vs. bi-level cars? This seems to happen a lot with the bi-level Amtrak cars. It just seems to me that these trains should not be tipping over when derailing on a completely straight section of track.

They are certainly more top heavy but in an accident like this there are so many forces at play it’s complicated. This train went from 90 to 0 with no telescoping and no structural issues.... that’s pretty amazing.

 

[Cal]

With the SWC derailment, if the train goes to five-days-a-week what days will it probably depart? Can't remember where it was said previously on here.

 

[zetharion]

Thw SW Chief was already on life support it seemed, will this do it in? Really hope the fatalities are minimal.