Talgo Trainsets to California

[bretton88]

Maybe I missed this somewhere, but does anyone know when these will be delivered to CA?

Nothing has been released about that.

 

[battalion51]

That'll make for an interesting couple of Westbound Southwest Chief's...

 

[Seaboard92]

I remember a time when Amtrak was going to use talgos to start a train to Vegas. It was supposed to save some hours in the schedule too

 

[gswager]

That'll make for an interesting couple of Westbound Southwest Chief's...

Or maybe to Seattle for start-up maintenance, where the Talgo experts are.

 

[neroden]

Talgos don't actually have level boarding at low platforms (they're sort of "mid-level"), so I think they'll still be fooling around with wheelchair lifts. Should still be faster boarding than the Horizon/Amfleet set.

The Horizons and Amfleets will probably *initially* go to pad out the San Joaquins, but as soon as they get the bilevels, the Horizons and Amfleets are heading east. I'm sure they'll find use on the east coast, which can always use more Amfleets (and they'll find some way to retrofit the Horizons).

 

[bretton88]

Any idea when these will arrive in California?

 

[ocguy94]

They used one of these on Train 592. I saw it near Fullerton around 8:55. Took me awhile to figure out what it was since it was dark.

 

[Paulus]

They used one of these on Train 592. I saw it near Fullerton around 8:55. Took me awhile to figure out what it was since it was dark.

You sure it was a Talgo and not the normal single level consist?

 

[ocguy94]

They used one of these on Train 592. I saw it near Fullerton around 8:55. Took me awhile to figure out what it was since it was dark.

You sure it was a Talgo and not the normal single level consist?

Yup. I drove next to it. Looked really nice.

 

[KnightRail]

There are no Talgo sets currently in California. Period.

 

[chakk]

And don't expect to see them in Calif until 2017, if then.

And don't expect to see them outside the LA-SLO corridor.

 

[A Voice]

There are no Talgo sets currently in California. Period.

Thanks. I was wondering how a Talgo set could have made it all the way west without being noticed.

 

[jis]

The sets are being (or are going to be) worked on by Talgo in Milwaukee preparing them for California.

 

[cirdan]

Ah OK So just maintain current service but faster, and no through running for SLO trains to San Diego. makes sense

The release says the equipment enables time savings of 25 minutes.

To look at it pedantically, that's not the same as promising schedules will actually be shaved by that much.

Possibly some of that time could end up as extra padding.

 

[jamess]

Does anyone know if this is still happening?

 

[Just-Thinking-51]

No as of last week the Talgo are still in Indiana. Cost of the maintenance contract is a sticking point.

Talgo have a on board service rider, and in-house maintenance.

If your running Talgo solo then the cost should be reasonable. However it sticks out if you can't share cost with other equipment. That said Talgo will maintain other equipment makers products. So if Talgo is doing all your maintenance your overal cost should be good. On two train sets it going to stick out a bit.

 

[grover5995]

The sets are being (or are going to be) worked on by Talgo in Milwaukee preparing them for California.

These 2 trainsets were moved out of Milwaukee to AMTRAK Beech Grove shops last year. Not sure what the status of Talgo vs State of WI lawsuit is. There may have been a settlement that allowed the trains to be moved out of state. Sure hope that Talgo got all the money owed to them

 

[PRR 60]

The sets are being (or are going to be) worked on by Talgo in Milwaukee preparing them for California.

These 2 trainsets were moved out of Milwaukee to AMTRAK Beech Grove shops last year. Not sure what the status of Talgo vs State of WI lawsuit is. There may have been a settlement that allowed the trains to be moved out of state. Sure hope that Talgo got all the money owed to them

The Talgo sets were moved to Beech Grove in 2014.

Talgo and Wisconsin settled the lawsuit two years ago. Talgo sued claiming $65.9 million in damages. They settled for $9.75 million.