Acela 21 (Avelia Liberty) development, testing and deployment (2Q 2024)

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I was worried I wouldn't get the video roundup down before the next update. The period of silence was almost a month like last time. Talk about just-in-time.

Nothing like good ole reddit providing that top quality news and content.

My guess is Q4 2025.
I would always trust Acela150 to verify or clarify whatever crap is spewed on Reddit.

Is phase 2 FRA testing and approval? So now it's up to Amtrak alone to get these in service, right? Will there be a GO to assign proper maximum speed for the Avelias?
 
I was worried I wouldn't get the video roundup down before the next update. The period of silence was almost a month like last time. Talk about just-in-time.


I would always trust Acela150 to verify or clarify whatever crap is spewed on Reddit.

Is phase 2 FRA testing and approval? So now it's up to Amtrak alone to get these in service, right? Will there be a GO to assign proper maximum speed for the Avelias?
Yes, maybe the sarcasm in my post wasn’t obvious enough?
 
Once 3 of 3 is completed does that mean the crews can get qualified on the train sets or is that able to happen beforehand?
So I'm honestly not sure how this will go. I can tell you that a decent percentage of the Philadelphia crew base is qualified on them. Which makes sense as it's the home terminal for testing. I do believe that OBS employees are getting some looks at the new equipment. Mechanical crews are for sure.

I do truly believe that at a point in time the training will pick up and be done quickly but safely. T&E espeically. I'll add that I fully expect these new trainsets to be put in service in a quick and timely manner once the FRA says "go".
 
Just a repeat of CAF problems.
One of CAF's problem was finding skilled labor with the right kind of skills. I don;t think that was a problem faced by Alstom on this order. Here the major delaying factor was getting the antiquated US rail infrastructure for passenger trains married with off the shelf high speed trains. We were all hoping for a miracle and that did not materialize. It was a challenge to make that marriage come to fruition. Hopefully now that the lessons have been learned from the first project, subsequent ones will go easier consuming less time and effort.
 
Everyone involved in this rollout should be fired. That includes Amtrak and Alstom.
Amtrak's Inspector General has already reamed them a new one on Amtrak's oversight and management of this.

Not that the IG's report caused any repercussions with the adult day care center that is Amtrak's HQ.
 
Or Alstom's software development team, which is the apparent culprit behind their failure to build a representative computer model.

The NEC may be complicated, but that certainly doesn't stop other Bombardier, Siemens, and Alstom products from using it daily, or being built in compliance.
 
Or Alstom's software development team, which is the apparent culprit behind their failure to build a representative computer model.

The NEC may be complicated, but that certainly doesn't stop other Bombardier, Siemens, and Alstom products from using it daily, or being built in compliance.
But none of them are trying to get certified for anything more than 125mph using Jacob’s Truck based articulation. Acela IIs are in a completely different space from the slow poke heavy stuff that is normal on the NEC. It is not like these high speed trains did not go through long drawn out certification pains when initially introduced in their native lands either.
 

Avelia Liberty, Capitol Limited, MARC and more at Amtrak's DC Ivy City facilities
Shared October 26, 2024

One set in DC



WNYP Avelia Liberty Fall Chase
Shared October 22, 2024

A trainset was returned to Hornell, October 15 (from thumbnail)
A trainset was moved from Hornell on October 2nd (videos in previous posts) so this may be the counterpart "swap" alluded in the description of that video



Passing Amtrak's Philadelphia 30th Street Yard on Acela
Shared today, October 31, 2024

No confirmation of date. I count 6 trainsets. The lonely trainset up in the front (north) has been parked there for many weeks without respect to whether it actually moved.
 
This is the very first cert for a Tier-III set. More so, for a new design train—Amtrak is effectively the launch customer. So many firsts, so many landmines to navigate, some of which exploded.

Sorry that I’m late to this post.

But this is an extremely important comment! Because this is very very true!

Keep in mind folks that the new fleet is a first for not only Amtrak, but more importantly the FRA. Yes, I want to see the new stuff in service just as much as the next railfan. But for now it’s more waiting on the FRA. I’ve heard some rumors that the next round of testing will not be long in duration. However the main thing that will need to be done is putting miles on the trainsets for acceptance into service. I’ve heard rumors that they will be adding dedicated crews for them. However I’m not sure what if and when that would happen at this point in time.
 
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