Amtrak Derailment Philadelphia (5/12/2015)

[warrenwarner]

I'm curious about the cars that were damaged in the accident. Will they be repaired?

 

[CCC1007]

The ones that won't cost too much probably will be returning to service, eventually...

 

[edjbox]

I'm curious about the cars that were damaged in the accident. Will they be repaired?

Definitely not the business class car that was literally ripped apart

 

[jis]

From what I have heard, the front three cars are gone. The rear several cars are probably going to be back soon. The rest to be determined.

 

[MikefromCrete]

None of those cars -- and the locomotive -- will be touched until the lawyers are finished with them.

 

[Thirdrail7]

None of those cars -- and the locomotive -- will be touched until the lawyers are finished with them.

I suspect that will take years.

 

[cirdan]

None of those cars -- and the locomotive -- will be touched until the lawyers are finished with them.

don't you mean the forensics?

 

[CCC1007]

None of those cars -- and the locomotive -- will be touched until the lawyers are finished with them.

don't you mean the forensics?

No, the forensics are already done with them. There is a class action lawsuit against Amtrak over this incident IIRC.

 

[jis]

I suspect that the relatively undamaged rear cars in which there were few injuries and no deaths will be released way earlier than the front three or four cars.

 

[Devil's Advocate]

If you look over past wrecks there are cases where the hardware was returned to service rather early and other times when it was held so long as to be operationally irrelevant. So far as I am aware it's up to the judge to rule how critical physical hardware is to future legal proceedings based on the claims of the litigants. Holding of hardware that is outdated or is damaged beyond economical repair is unlikely to be challenged while hardware that is in high demand and could be returned to service relatively quickly may be granted a hearing to determine future legal relevance. If and when such a hearing occurs and when the judge comes to any sort of conclusion are anyone's guess.

 

[Acela150]

An article on Philly.com states that Amtrak is starting to settle on some suits filed..

The first paragraph has an important date.. May 17th.. That being the date that the NTSB will make it's report public and with it's report their recommendations to improve safety.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/20160423_Amtrak_already_settling_claims_from_its_May_12_crash_last_year.html

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Federal investigators will meet next week to detail the probable cause of last year's fatal Amtrak train derailment in Philadelphia.
The National Transportation Safety Board's meeting Tuesday in Washington will be held just over a year after the crash that killed eight people and injured more than 200 others.

http://6abc.com/news/amtrak-crash-1-year-later-probable-cause-to-be-revealed/1333749/

 

[BCL]

There's been a "don't cite me" source saying the cause was radio distraction with the reports of rock throwing.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/

 

[Acela150]

There's been a "don't cite me" source saying the cause was radio distraction with the reports of rock throwing.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/

Someone always has to be "that guy" who will start the talking before the official word is out.. Why can't people like this keep their mouth shut and let the actual investigators do the talking?

 

[BCL]

There's been a "don't cite me" source saying the cause was radio distraction with the reports of rock throwing.http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/

Someone always has to be "that guy" who will start the talking before the official word is out.. Why can't people like this keep their mouth shut and let the actual investigators do the talking?

If I were to guess, it was probably done on someone's orders.

 

[OlympianHiawatha]

I noticed the NTSB also expressed concern about the Emergency Windows; it seems they indicated several pax were tossed through them during the derailment. It makes me wonder how often Amtrak removes those windows, cleans and inspects the mounts and replaces the gaskets.

 

[WoodyinNYC]

... they indicated several pax were tossed through the [Emergency Windows] during the derailment. It makes me wonder how often Amtrak removes those windows, cleans and inspects the mounts and replaces the gaskets.

Reminds me that I am prevented from the peace of mind of fastening my seat belt when on Amtrak.

I'm not saying they should require you to use a seat belt.

I'm saying I want to use a seat belt but cannot. And I think that's wrong.

 

[CSXfoamer1997]

Now that the NTSB has completed its investigation, and they say that engineer Bostian was distracted by the radio conversations, is it determined whether he'll face imprisonment/criminal charges or if those charges will be dropped?

And is it likely that he'll ever run trains again?

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Now that the NTSB has completed its investigation, and they say that engineer Bostian was distracted by the radio conversations, is it determined whether he'll face imprisonment/criminal charges or if those charges will be dropped?

And is it likely that he'll ever run trains again?

Who says the investigation is complete? The NTSB is just now having it's meeting. What we've been hearing so far is unofficial.

 

[tricia]

AP article posted online this morning: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AMTRAK_CRASH_INVESTIGATION?SITE=AZTUS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

 

[Acela150]

Now that the NTSB has completed its investigation, and they say that engineer Bostian was distracted by the radio conversations, is it determined whether he'll face imprisonment/criminal charges or if those charges will be dropped?

And is it likely that he'll ever run trains again?

STOP!!

You are wrong all over here...

The investigation is wrapping up.. I'm currently watching the news conference on my laptop. They are currently determining what the likely cause is.

Second you imply that he is already facing criminal charges. He is NOT. That is up to I believe either the Philadelphia DA or a federal DA..

As for your question to if he'll work for the railroad again... Think about it..

 

[CSXfoamer1997]

Now that the NTSB has completed its investigation, and they say that engineer Bostian was distracted by the radio conversations, is it determined whether he'll face imprisonment/criminal charges or if those charges will be dropped?

And is it likely that he'll ever run trains again?

Who says the investigation is complete? The NTSB is just now having it's meeting. What we've been hearing so far is unofficial.

Oh. I thought I heard that it was complete in this CNN article. I must've misheard it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/

 

[Mystic River Dragon]

The CNN article was dated yesterday evening, and the NTSB is/was meeting this morning. Even if CNN's story is correct, it's just another example of the media trying to be first with the story instead of waiting for official word. Probably always part of the news media through the past decades, but getting more so now when everyone has to have everything immediately.

 

[Rover]

Here's an article dated today:

Human Error and High Speed Blamed for Deadly Philadelphia Amtrak Crash

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/amtrak-crash/human-error-blame-deadly-philadelphia-amtrak-crash-n575341

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/17/investigators-amtrak-engineer-distracted-fatal-crash/84486836/

The Amtrak train wasn't hit by rocks or bullets, investigators said.

The board voted 3-1 that the probable cause of the accident was because the engineer accelerated to 106 mph “due to his loss of situational awareness likely because his attention was diverted to an emergency situation with another train."

 

[Alexandria Nick]

There's been a "don't cite me" source saying the cause was radio distraction with the reports of rock throwing.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/amtrak-188-derailment-engineer-distracted/

Someone always has to be "that guy" who will start the talking before the official word is out.. Why can't people like this keep their mouth shut and let the actual investigators do the talking?

They often are the actual investigators.