I would agree with you, if you were talking about say, the S550 (my 'dream' car....), but not when comparing buses....Mercedes builds the best road vehicles in the world. Period, end of discussion. The second best is debatable.
I would agree with you, if you were talking about say, the S550 (my 'dream' car....), but not when comparing buses....Mercedes builds the best road vehicles in the world. Period, end of discussion. The second best is debatable.
Well yeah.....but when was the last time an Eagle was built?I thought Eagle had the best ride with their Torsilastic suspension,
One of the reasons, that it is the coach of choice for the very top end ('north of a million dollars) motorhome and entertainer coach conversions....Even the presidential Secret Service coach is a converted X3....I really enjoyed my ride on the X3-45 better than several rides on the D4505. It has a very smooth, stable ride.
That's good to hear that they ride good. Lynx is to acquire six motorcoaches and it's likely to be Prevost X3-45s. I'm just hoping it's worth the money we're spending on them, if we do get Prevosts. Now as for the C2045, they ride pretty good.I personally prefer the Prevost. It has the best ride in the business, and handles better, as well.Wonder how the Prevost X3-45s are compared to the D4505s. Since we could be getting Prevost commuter coaches soon, I might as well ask about the X3-45s.
The biggest weakness of the Eagle's were their 12 volt electrical system...if you left the ceiling lights on a bit too long while loading the bus withour the engine running...well better keep some jumper cables ready.....As for the durability of Eagles, that's up for debate right there. They were widely used by Trailways, which indicates they must of been good coaches for Trailways.
I guess it's maintenance thing. MEARS had trouble with it's first Van Hools in the early 2000s. They were the 1998 T2145s that were bought new, with several being used on the Disney Cruise Line service. They seem to like the C2045s, since those are the only type of new Van Hools I've seen so far. They do have some Volvo 9700s that they acquired recently, though.I will awake your opinion with great interest......
As for the Van Hool CO2045.....we have a pair of 2006, four 2009, and several 2012 and 2013 model's... I consider the ride on our 2006 and 2009 to be among the worst riding coaches since the before the air-ride's came out. Our 2012, and 2013 are vastly improved, but still not as good as the Prevost's....
Thanks for the information on Eagles. I recalled seeing some of those Eagles back in the 90s, but I never rode on them from what I know of.The biggest weakness of the Eagle's were their 12 volt electrical system...if you left the ceiling lights on a bit too long while loading the bus withour the engine running...well better keep some jumper cables ready.....As for the durability of Eagles, that's up for debate right there. They were widely used by Trailways, which indicates they must of been good coaches for Trailways.
Another weakness was their engine cooling system....overheated very easily.
Our company wags liked to say that new Eagle's came equipped with an empty sodapop can. You know.....so you could prop open the bottom of the engine door while driving down the road for improved cooling....
Our company purchased Eagle's up until 1987. (We also purchased MCI's concurrently). We had several model 10 and model 15's in service until the late 90's.... Greyhound still had some ex Trailways Eagle's in their fleet including some model 15's also around that time. They spent their last years I believe on their Miami-Key West line....Occasionally on holiday's some would end up in NYC....
I'm comparing them, from when our 2006 and 2009 were brand-new......they did something to improve the ride on the latest model's, but I do not know just what that is....the earlier model's had a rather harsh ride. The latest model's aren't bad at all, just not as good as the Prevost's.Railiner, the older Van Hools probably ride worse cause they are older. When the 2013 and 2014 Van Hools get eight years old, I'm guessing they wouldn't be much better.
In comparing the baggage capacity of the D4505 and the X3-45, the D only has 4 more cubic feet total (517 vs 513) and that is including both underfloor and overhead in non-wheelchair equipped models.....the MCI website spec don't break it down between underfloor and overhead, as the Prevost site does, so hard to compare exactly...Guess the Van Hool isn't that bad for short routes. Still wouldn't want it for a thousand-mile run though.
Very rare to see 102DL3's in California. I'm surprised you saw any at all. Perhaps they're gearing up for the transcon runs. The X3-45 isn't that great of a bus, low luggage capacity and the wheelbase is too long to climb hills well (lose traction). Also not the most durable, it's durable, but less than the DL3. So I think the 102DL3 is best, followed by X3-45, followed by D4505, followed by G4500. I thought the X3-45 would've gotten much better MPG than the DL3 but it's actually about the same. Of course the 102DL3 seats just knock X3-45 and D4505 seats down the drain.
The X3-45 does get out of the Northeast a lot now, some are based in Dallas, I heard. Every major Greyhound model goes through Dallas now. I'm guessing that X3-45 you saw ran the Dallas-Los Angeles route then got dispatched down for quick return to San Diego before heading back to Dallas. You will notice that Greyhound almost never uses the X3-45 for mountainous routes, just a few hilly routes, but mountainous, no.
By the way, more recent events mean that I will be using the free ticket to Colorado instead. Los Angeles for later in the year, when I have to go to Phoenix. Yeah, I know.
Now that makes since... but I highly doubt that Greyhound has that problem when trying to climb mountain passes on interstate highways.A long wheel base can effect performance in rough terrain, by bottoming out the bus and leaving it high and dry with its wheels off the ground... But if your characteristics are such that this can happen, you were a meshugana for bringing any 45' bus into the area to begin with.
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